GDB XLIII: Good news and bad news

bingofuel
January 05 2010 11:00AM

Things just aren't improving in OilersNation. There's talk of dumping this player or that player to free up cap space, Pat Quinn cancelled the traditional team mini-vacation in favour of bag skates, and perhaps worst of all, the Oilers will be competing with the World Junior Gold Medal Final for viewers tonight. You have a choice, faithful hockey fans: watch a sure-fire exciting match up with Canada's juniors taking on the USA... or pay $16 to see if the Oilers can down the Coyotes (because standard def is for chumps).

Is it too early for whiskey?

The good news

There is a light at the end of today's dismal tunnel, and despite what some of you might think, it's actually Oilers hockey. Now I'm not one to recommend you skip the World Juniors Gold Medal Match — if it's anything like the game Canada and the US played on New Year's Eve, it's sure to be heart-stopping — but consider the Oilers and the Coyotes:

  • Oilers record against the 'Yotes: 31-10-3-5 since 1996. At home, the Oilers like beating the desert dogs, with a record of 18-4-2-1.
  • If Steve Staios gets two points tonight, he'll have racked up 200 career points.
  • The last time the Oil played the Coyotes, Deslauriers earned himself a shutout.
  • Scott Upshall is probably out for this game.

The bad news

Where there is light, however, there is darkness. Unless you've somehow found a way to harness the power of the sun directly to light whatever tunnel you're talking about. But in all likelihood, you'd just burn yourself and everyone around you.

So my theory on light and darkness still stands.

Here's why you should be worried, and maybe not spend your cash on PPV:

  • The Coyotes are shit-hot right now — currently fifth in the league, and 6-2-2 in their last ten.
  • According to the Oilers' own game notes, Ilya Bryzgalov is in the business of eating pucks for breakfast, and spitting them back out at the opposing team's players... generally speaking.
  • The Mighty Oil aren't so mighty right now, with a record of 1-9-0 in their last ten.
  • At least half a dozen Oilers are still injured or sick or playing hooky.

Reality check

The question is what Oilers squad are we going to see tonight? Will it be the team that had a 5-game winning streak on the road (man, those were the days), or are these Oilers so dismayed at their own performance (and rightly so) that they'll continue to shit the proverbial bed at RX1 tonight?

It was mentioned yesterday that the Oilers need to go at least 32-8 to have a playoff shot this season. Another question, then, is do they deliberately shit the bed now and for the end of the season? Can brass actually mandate a true, impassioned Dive For Five?

You might get your answer tonight at 7pm. Part of me still hopes the answer's a win. An unlikely win, but a win nonetheless: 3-1 Oilers.

Oh, and Canada takes gold tonight, but it's not going to be easy: 5-3 with an empty-netter.

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#1 Chris.
January 05 2010, 11:10AM
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Down with PPV! Acceptable 5 games/season max!

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#2 MattL
January 05 2010, 11:27AM
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Yeah, gave up a free ticket in the golds to stay home and watch the best two teams play in the best hockey tourny in the world. ON STANDARD DEF!

Made the mistake of watching Edm. vs. Dallas right after the semi-final vs. Russia last year, and it almost made me hate the NHL regular season permanently.

There is no comparison, WJHC FTW.

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#3 Chaz
January 05 2010, 11:32AM
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Just because things have been so negative on here lately I'd like to add a couple of general positives from the season to date so we don't get too depressed too quickly:

Penner has shown he can play like the Power Forward Lowe had hoped for when he threw him the huge offer.

Brule is playing more like a first rounder than I've seen to date.

Visnovsky is continuing to prove he is a top offensive d-man in this league

JDD has shown us he belongs in this league, although as a starter we're still not totally sure.

We've got two top prospects charging furiously to make this team next year in Eberle and MPS.

We get to enjoy Quinn's direct, no holds barred comments after every loss.

We'll hopefully be getting a new barn soon.

So let's take that rope off our neck, the gun barrell out of our mouths, and step off the ledge. Things aren't that bad....as long as we can try to focus on the positives.

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#4 SirFozz
January 05 2010, 11:33AM
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I can't wait for the CAN vs US game tonight.

I like your 5-3 score bingofuel, I'm going with that. Eberle pots 2 tonight and future Oilers sniper Hall gets 1.

As for Oilers game- Fall for Hall continues.

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#5 Chaz
January 05 2010, 11:34AM
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....oops I forgot one....

We're also in the running for a top three pick next year. Any others I missed?

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#6 RossCreekNation
January 05 2010, 11:35AM
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Canada v. USA should be awesome! This is the least I've seen of the WJC possibly ever. Sad, its been a Holiday tradition for years. Fack work! I saw the early beatings and I'll see this. Canadian Dustin Boyd and American Eric Nystrom have a lil side bet going on. Wonder if any Oilers do.

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#7 The Towel Boy
January 05 2010, 11:37AM
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Bingofuel, watching the "Mad Men" marathon on Bravo over the holidays has taught me one thing: It's never too early for whiskey....or smoking....or sexually harassing your secretary.

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#8 The Towel Boy
January 05 2010, 11:40AM
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Chaz wrote:

....oops I forgot one....

We're also in the running for a top three pick next year. Any others I missed?

Souray still has great hair.

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#9 Giggsunited
January 05 2010, 11:45AM
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I say 2-1 Oilers. Only because a late 3rd period "powerplay" goal that we got only because Pat Quinn called an ilegal curve on Sami Lepisto. (This is what its come down to)

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#10 EricOG
January 05 2010, 11:45AM
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New chant for tonight is: WE WANT HALL!! WE WANT HALL!! Oilers 4-Coyotes 3 in overtime

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#11 Giggsunited
January 05 2010, 11:52AM
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Chaz wrote:

....oops I forgot one....

We're also in the running for a top three pick next year. Any others I missed?

Nilsson, Bobby fu@#in all star is playing like the superstar weve always wanted! hahahahahahahahahaha

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#13 Offthebandwagon
January 05 2010, 12:06PM
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"Can brass actually mandate a true, impassioned Dive For Five?" I'm sure this is intended as just a rhetorical question, but there are rules against throwing games; the only way they could actually try to suck would be to make managerial decisions to negatively effect the team's success for this season: get surgeries for Bulin and Horcoff, trade Visnovsky for picks, etc. I suppose Quinn could play O'Sullivan for twenty minutes/game too, but that would probably be considered "throwing" the game too...

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#14 Offthebandwagon
January 05 2010, 12:07PM
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That's only a positive if we can trade him. Its a negative if Tambellini says, "Wow, this kid deserves an extension!"

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#15 Chris.
January 05 2010, 12:12PM
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The Oilers will probably land in the bottom five even if they improve their overall game and play around .500 for the rest of the season.

@ MattL. I thought it was pretty cool to be in Rexall when Eberle got that magical goal agaist the Russians. We all watched it on the big screen and cheered ourselves silly. It was a nice moment to share with thousands of other Oiler fans.

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#16 Giggsunited
January 05 2010, 12:26PM
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Chris. wrote:

The Oilers will probably land in the bottom five even if they improve their overall game and play around .500 for the rest of the season.

@ MattL. I thought it was pretty cool to be in Rexall when Eberle got that magical goal agaist the Russians. We all watched it on the big screen and cheered ourselves silly. It was a nice moment to share with thousands of other Oiler fans.

any more then 11-12 wins we dont get Hall. If we keep going were we are at (70pts at seasons end) we will be in the top 5. Lets hope we dont get more then 17 wins from here on in.

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#17 Oilers4Life
January 05 2010, 12:27PM
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The best/worst part depending on which side of the DFF you are on, is that after Canada wins GOLD tonight, we still have the Oilers for 3 more months. THE good part is Crosby is coming to town in a couple of weeks, and I already watched Alex the great own the Oilers in Third Period. So not all is lost. Worst part is, I bought all the PPV's, so this one is going to go to waste in favour of a good hockey game.

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#19 Quintana
January 05 2010, 12:33PM
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Offthebandwagon wrote:

That's only a positive if we can trade him. Its a negative if Tambellini says, "Wow, this kid deserves an extension!"

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richard-Cloutier/The-Pipeline---January-5-2010/131/25324

Trade rumours today not involving Nilsson but Cogs and O'sully plus picks or(Chorney)......for Duby and Mark Stall!! Also Bustromm plus picks for Souray or Grebs!!

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#20 Thorn
January 05 2010, 12:40PM
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Is the rumor about 20+ PPV games next year true? I'm up in arms about paying $70 in November alone to watch the Oilers from the comfort of my home. If the plan is to continue bending the fans over and shoving a boot up our proverbial tail pipe, I for one will NOT stand for it!! I will still pay $100 for tickets, $8 beers and consequently the $60 cab fare to and from...but I'll be DAMNED if they're going to come into my house and take my money for something that should be free!!! Taking advantage of the fact that we Edmonton Oiler fans are loyal to the disgustingly bitter end *refer to current season* is UNETHICAL and the greedy pig decision makers better be ready for a revolt!!! ...I wonder if there is a stock being sold for "Center Ice Package"?

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#21 Offthebandwagon
January 05 2010, 01:00PM
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Quintana wrote:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richard-Cloutier/The-Pipeline---January-5-2010/131/25324

Trade rumours today not involving Nilsson but Cogs and O'sully plus picks or(Chorney)......for Duby and Mark Stall!! Also Bustromm plus picks for Souray or Grebs!!

The "plus picks" part makes me nervous, but otherwise the Cogs and O'Sully for Staal deal would be really good for the Oilers. How reliable is this site?

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#22 Tayranchula
January 05 2010, 01:07PM
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Bring back Anson Carter and put him on a line with Peter Nedved and Radek Dvorak/ or Peter Sykora.... HA! then trade the whole team for Ovechkin plus the next 5 years first overall picks for Crosby...thats how i would run the team

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#23 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
January 05 2010, 01:10PM
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Offthebandwagon wrote:

The "plus picks" part makes me nervous, but otherwise the Cogs and O'Sully for Staal deal would be really good for the Oilers. How reliable is this site?

Cloutier gets his rumours from hockeyfutures chat boards.

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#24 Chaz
January 05 2010, 01:17PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

Souray still has great hair.

True that Sir, true that!

Bingofuel,

Isn't the Oilers pathetic performance lately as a means to hide our collective alcoholism ALSO a postive....albeit in a round about way???

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#25 Bucknuck
January 05 2010, 01:18PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Cloutier gets his rumours from hockeyfutures chat boards.

And Eklund gets his from Rosscreek.

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#26 Mark
January 05 2010, 01:21PM
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I don't really think we have to hope the Oilers delibrately throw the season to ensure a top 3 pick. Right now they are playing like the worst team in the league by far. Not much desire and hardly any skill. Even with Hemsky this is a 70-80pt team at best but without him, they are doomed. It the long run, better to be really bad for a year or two then just bad enough to miss the playoffs year after year (see Leafs). There is a future here if they let it happen. Stop going after free agents for stupid money, and save your coin for several years down the road with guys like Eberle and MPS have to get paid ( and maybe Hall too).

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#27 RossCreekNation
January 05 2010, 01:24PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

And Eklund gets his from Rosscreek.

lol

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#28 Offthebandwagon
January 05 2010, 01:37PM
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Mark wrote:

I don't really think we have to hope the Oilers delibrately throw the season to ensure a top 3 pick. Right now they are playing like the worst team in the league by far. Not much desire and hardly any skill. Even with Hemsky this is a 70-80pt team at best but without him, they are doomed. It the long run, better to be really bad for a year or two then just bad enough to miss the playoffs year after year (see Leafs). There is a future here if they let it happen. Stop going after free agents for stupid money, and save your coin for several years down the road with guys like Eberle and MPS have to get paid ( and maybe Hall too).

How much do you want to bet that if Kovalchuck isn't signed by July 1st Tambellini spends his whole summer with wood for him and misses the boat again.

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#29 MattL
January 05 2010, 01:40PM
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Chris. wrote:

The Oilers will probably land in the bottom five even if they improve their overall game and play around .500 for the rest of the season.

@ MattL. I thought it was pretty cool to be in Rexall when Eberle got that magical goal agaist the Russians. We all watched it on the big screen and cheered ourselves silly. It was a nice moment to share with thousands of other Oiler fans.

I can imagine that would have been sweet. I can also imagine it was by far the biggest cheer of the night at Rexall. Or maybe the year.

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#30 rubbertrout
January 05 2010, 01:47PM
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@bingofuel

Hey Bingo what's the status on ON gear being available for sale?

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#31 Offthebandwagon
January 05 2010, 01:49PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

And Eklund gets his from Rosscreek.

Speaking of rumours, I heard that if they win Gold in Vancouver CFP and Heatley are planning to celebrate by renting a Ferrari, having a few beers and getting some girls pregnant--make us proud boys!

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#32 Racki
January 05 2010, 01:59PM
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I'll be watching the Canada / USA game tonight.. no PPV. I have ordered every PPV so far this season and have always been one to order the games. Hell, I even ordered one this year and had to go out so I couldn't even watch it. :P

But really, tonight is Canada's night. I'm down on the Oilers, but not down enough to stop watching... except when Canada is playing.

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#33 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
January 05 2010, 02:00PM
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Racki wrote:

I'll be watching the Canada / USA game tonight.. no PPV. I have ordered every PPV so far this season and have always been one to order the games. Hell, I even ordered one this year and had to go out so I couldn't even watch it. :P

But really, tonight is Canada's night. I'm down on the Oilers, but not down enough to stop watching... except when Canada is playing.

I didn't order the last Oilers PPV. I made a comment about how crappy the match-ups were this year for the PPV games, and somebody told me it was because it's more entertaining to watch a win than a loss. That becomes a problem when the Oil starts to lose to perennial bottom-feeders.

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#34 fatso
January 05 2010, 02:06PM
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Cogs is a hard player and it been like that all year, none stop every year. If we trade him, it will be R.Smyth trade all over agian.

A leader every night by his play and his hard work, so how do we repay them, by (trade). I don't think so.

Cogs for captain

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#35 RossCreekNation
January 05 2010, 02:06PM
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How 'bout the Swede's today. They left their captain Magnus Johansson off the game sheet because they assumed he was going to be suspended for a hit in the prior game. He wasn't, and now he can't play in the bronze medal game because he was left off the official gamesheet. WOW

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#36 Bucknuck
January 05 2010, 02:11PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

How 'bout the Swede's today. They left their captain Magnus Johansson off the game sheet because they assumed he was going to be suspended for a hit in the prior game. He wasn't, and now he can't play in the bronze medal game because he was left off the official gamesheet. WOW

Jeez... that's terrible. I wonder if some of the team managers are from the Roughriders.

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#37 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
January 05 2010, 02:12PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

How 'bout the Swede's today. They left their captain Magnus Johansson off the game sheet because they assumed he was going to be suspended for a hit in the prior game. He wasn't, and now he can't play in the bronze medal game because he was left off the official gamesheet. WOW

Yeah, that's rough.

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#38 Muji 狗
January 05 2010, 02:21PM
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The Oilers can't deliberately throw games. First, it's obviously not allowed. Second, nobody likes to lose; pro athletes have way too much pride and competitive spirit to deliberately throw games.

BUT - and this is the positive side of things - management could/should push the DFF agenda indirectly by trading any veteran pieces they can (e.g. Moreau, Staios, Souray, and maybe even Penner).

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#39 David S
January 05 2010, 02:26PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Jeez... that's terrible. I wonder if some of the team managers are from the Roughriders.

Maybe Team Sweden's management is the Oilers' management group farm team.

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#40 Gregors dirty 'stash
January 05 2010, 02:26PM
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@bingofuel

Mr Bingofuel

The "big Black Anal Beads" guy got fired from my work today hahaha!

On a serious note, when is my Star Comrie set to return? Anyword yet?

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#41 Milli
January 05 2010, 02:31PM
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Wait a minute, they haven't been losing on purpose???? I thought Quinn was the only one NOT in on it!!! Could have fooled me. I say Canada 4 - 3. As for the Mighty Oil, won't be watching. Anyone want tickets for Jan 20 v Canucks?

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#42 RossCreekNation
January 05 2010, 02:39PM
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@Gregors dirty 'stash

AHAHAHAHA.

I mean its never funny when someone loses a job.

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#43 RossCreekNation
January 05 2010, 02:41PM
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Pierre & Gord just mentioned that not only will Svensson most likely be on the Oil next year, he'll be on the PP too.

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#44 KenL
January 05 2010, 02:42PM
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The last three PPV games I paid for or watched at a pub - the Oilers lost. The last PPV which I didn't watch (Leafs), they won.

Given the obvious reasons not to watch, I'll choose superstition as my reason.

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#45 Offthebandwagon
January 05 2010, 03:13PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Pierre & Gord just mentioned that not only will Svensson most likely be on the Oil next year, he'll be on the PP too.

Putting him on the 2nd unit would be a no-brainer given the current talent, but can you actually see him bumping Gagner, Penner, or Hemsky off the top unit in his first year?

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#46 Balf82
January 05 2010, 03:36PM
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Cogliano, O'Sullivan and Grebs for

Staal, Dubinsky and Kotalik

Get it done.

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#47 Balf82
January 05 2010, 03:37PM
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^

Dubinsky is a beast

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#48 RossCreekNation
January 05 2010, 03:41PM
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@Balf82

If you think you can get BOTH Staal & Dubinsky, you're dreaming. I can't see them even contemplating moving Staal. Dubinsky perhaps and I'd take him.

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#49 SirFozz
January 05 2010, 03:49PM
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If you think you can get BOTH Staal & Dubinsky, you're dreaming. I can't see them even contemplating moving Staal. Dubinsky perhaps and I'd take him.

If the Oil could pick him up and then play Dubnyk, we'd save some energy by being able to chant Duby for both. That could be management's new strategy- collect dubies. Of course, an argument could be made they've implemented this strategy for years.

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#50 WT
January 05 2010, 03:59PM
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@SirFozz

Big game tonight. With the extra drills WT suspects Oil will come out flying. Question though, how long before the vet's quit on Quinn like they quit on MacT or have they already?

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