DROPPING A KLEFBOM?

Lowetide
July 04 2012 07:20AM

The Edmonton Oilers are "in search of" defensemen who can play at the NHL level and develop with the fab four. Is Oscar Klefbom ready to help now?

Martin Lundén has been a valuable resource for Oiler fans over the piece and continues to bring information miles before the rest. He was so far in front of the Klefbom signing seasons changed, and now he has some new information that may impact the big club in 12-13.

  • Lundén:According to sources who’ve talked to Klefbom the Oilers have tried to persuade Klefbom, offering him a spot on the Oilers roster with guaranteed ice-time, a guarantee that the highly thought of Schultz didn’t receive (or so they say). Klefbom have yet to make up his mind, saying “it’s obviously a lucrative offer” that “makes you think” but “nothing is decided yet and I’ve asked them for more time to make a final decision”.

I trust his word, the guy is connected and there's a direct quote in there. So, is this a good idea? I think it's dangerous to have two rookies playing top 6 minutes, especially when the team lacks someone who can block out the sun and calm the waters at the top of the depth chart.

Consider the depth chart with Klefbom in the top 6:

  1. Ladislav Smid
  2. Jeff Petry
  3. Ryan Whitney
  4. Justin Schultz
  5. Nick Schultz
  6. Oscar Klefbom
  7. Andy Sutton
  8. Theo Peckham
  9. Corey Potter
  10. Colten Teubert
  11. Taylor Fedun
  12. Alex Plante

If the story is true, I doubt the Oilers are looking for another defender unless it's an upgrade in the top of the depth chart. A guess would be that they were so impressed by Klefbom (as implied by the article) that they are willing to suffer the growing pains of two rookie blue in order to fast track the young Swede.

It is a surprising turn of events. This kid must have taken one giant leap forward from a year ago.

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#1 Thumby
July 04 2012, 07:30AM
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Wow - here is hoping he's the real deal!

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#2 The Oilers Shot Clock
July 04 2012, 07:31AM
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throw in a few injuries and theres plenty of room to acquire a top 6 d-man. Even a real one.

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#3 knee deep in it
July 04 2012, 07:42AM
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if this story is true, then the Oilers are forced to find that guy who can block out the sun.The only guy I can think of is JayBo.

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#4 vince
July 04 2012, 07:43AM
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LT what would be your preference given the choice of having top 6 of

1.Ladislav Smid 2.Jeff Petry 3.Ryan Whitney 4.Justin Schultz 5.Nick Schultz 6.Oscar Klefbom or bringing a number 2 or 3 Dman but it costs either Gagner Paaravi or Hemsky and Klefbom stays behind?

I just really don't want Gagner traded.

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#5 PabstBR55
July 04 2012, 07:43AM
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Hey great! We get to be in the draft lottery again!

While we're at it we should pair Hall and Ebs with Belanger to keep their point totals down to create a better negotiating position for their 2nd contracts.

ELPH returns for one last hurrah!

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#6 Ken
July 04 2012, 07:48AM
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I watched Klefbom at the prospect 4 on 4 game (1st period only?)

He is ready for the NHL with size, speed and a great first pass.

You don't BUY and dynasty team - you build it from within.

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#7 Eulers
July 04 2012, 07:49AM
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Too soon! Why are we constantly rushing the development of these players. At the very least, some seasoning in the AHL would do the young Dman some good. Sigh!

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#9 Max Powers - Team HME Evans
July 04 2012, 07:51AM
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Ridiculous to think that management would be ok with 2 rookie dmen in a year when tambo's @ss is on the line. I highly doubt this one, but wouldn't be surprised.

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#11 Oil Fan in Ottawa
July 04 2012, 07:54AM
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@PabstBR55

I don't think having Klefbom receive Peckham or Potter's minutes will determine the fate of this team. If he's ready, he's ready.

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#12 PabstBR55
July 04 2012, 07:59AM
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Oil Fan in Ottawa wrote:

I don't think having Klefbom receive Peckham or Potter's minutes will determine the fate of this team. If he's ready, he's ready.

Indeed. But whose minutes is Justin Schultz getting? Gilbert's?

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#13 madjam
July 04 2012, 07:59AM
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I question our apparent assessment with basically just a development camp so far . Kreuger seems to think he's the real deal and that's probably a good thing - not sure i trust the others who have frequently misassessed . I'd like to see him stay in N.America as i was also impressed with him . Is he an insurance policy for Whitney if he has problems after last surgery.

The defence from 7-12 takes a step down . I wonder how many of them will be gone with several others moving up in the likes of Musil , Marincin , Gernat , etc.? It feels like we are poised to make a big run the year after next year rather than the big push this year .

Bottom line - if he is an upgrade bring him on board !

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#14 freeze
July 04 2012, 08:00AM
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Don't rush the kid!!! I think guaranteed ice time in the AHL would be best but I can't see that happening. Break in Schultz this year and drop the 'Bom next year. Third year, cup.

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#16 OvenChicken8 - Team JSBM
July 04 2012, 08:01AM
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This doesn't surprise me at all. The fact that Stauffer has been pushing the envelope with "Scouts telling him Klefbom is better than Murray." makes the situation real.

Best case scenario is having Klefbom play his 9 games, get a taste of the North American game and then either send him down to the AHL for the year or back to Sweden. One more year of development will only help him not hinder him.

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#17 PabstBR55
July 04 2012, 08:03AM
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I would prefer that Oscar took Whitneys spot when his contract expires at the end of the season. No hurry in chewing up those ELC years either.

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#18 knobby
July 04 2012, 08:05AM
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It's not Klefbom's abilities that are in doubt. His hesitancy and uncertainty are though. I would preach patience here as it pertains to the Oilers decision-makers. I'm looking forward to seeing him play but not at the price of having him pee down his leg and leaving a yellow stain on Rexall ice.

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#19 RexLibris
July 04 2012, 08:06AM
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I'd like to see him stay in the SEL for another season. He'll play here the year after and be better for it. We always toss around the Detroit model for patient development, well this is where that conviction is put to the test.

As for Klefbom, it is now apparent to me that the Oilers need to trade for Alex Urbom out of New Jersey. Then they'd have two 'Boms from the point.

Actually, in all seriousness, he is a prospect I'd like to see here.

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#20 Ring2theDing
July 04 2012, 08:07AM
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If Schultz wasn't guaranteed icetime, who says he starts the year with the NHL club. He could easily start on the Barons and work his way up like Petry did until he is able to make the giant step like Petry.

A top six of: Smid, Petry N.Schultz, (Insert viable top four Dman) Whitney, Kelfbom

Looks great and makes Schultz force his way onto the roster.

IMHO, I would still rather let Klefbom spend one more year in the SEL.

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#21 dougtheslug
July 04 2012, 08:14AM
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What is the over/under for how many times "Dropping the Klefbom" is used in a headline this season? I'm guessing about the same as for any variation of "Hemmer and the Nail".

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#22 Gret99zky
July 04 2012, 08:18AM
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Klefbom was out after the first period of the 3 on 3 game on Monday. Hopefully nothing serious.

No. Klefbom needs to spend one more year in the SEL. I am not letting Tambi off the hook by promoting another rookie as a stop gap. Fool me once...

No sir. It's up to Tambi and Co. to find a real NHL dman and an two way NHL forward for this season.

Otherwise, with injuries, it's another year out of the playoffs.

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#23 Sliderule
July 04 2012, 08:26AM
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The ideal thing would be to have Klefbom come to camp and see how he stacks up with the big boys. Judging from his play at WJC and end of year in the SEL he is probably ready

If he is deemed not ready try to convince him that AHL is better for his development than going back to SEL .

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#24 pelhem grenville
July 04 2012, 08:30AM
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I think Eulers is right ...take PRV for instance...~please!~...he was given the key to the city when he arrived and put on the same small pedestal as the4 and the14 and he got through the first season...second season it took waaay too much time for everyone to see that he got stalled in his own( actually the teams) hype and he ended up in the A ( a reluctant move albeit the only move that could have even started to help this young man that I've said plays like a girl in the corners) and did he flourish? ....nope... not at all ... and now with this young Dman Kbom is being 'asked/coaxed/bribed/lured' to play up in the show before his own time that he himself has set 'for himself' and they WILL expect what?

Give the kid a chance to prove himself on his own time table ... no big ice time promises...no pie- in- the- frickin' sky BS that can and probably will stunt his growth rather than enhance his development...this organization needs to slow the f*%k down ... steady as she goes with ALL their prospects or suffer the sinking stock prices of yet another PRV type player...

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#25 Oilcan
July 04 2012, 08:31AM
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I think Klefbom has the ability to play in the NHL this year but with the Oilers current roster and makeup on D I don't think it's wise. They brought in Petry last year and they are bringing in Schultz this year then bring in Klefbom next year. Don't bring in two rookies at the same time especially when you can't protect them.

Keeping Klefbom in the SEL allows the Oilers to have him play his entire ELC in the NHL which would be huge for the cap space. He may be a top 4 after his first year so they get a top 4 dman at 1.2 mill (or whatever it is)

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#26 dougtheslug
July 04 2012, 08:33AM
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Gret99zky wrote:

Klefbom was out after the first period of the 3 on 3 game on Monday. Hopefully nothing serious.

No. Klefbom needs to spend one more year in the SEL. I am not letting Tambi off the hook by promoting another rookie as a stop gap. Fool me once...

No sir. It's up to Tambi and Co. to find a real NHL dman and an two way NHL forward for this season.

Otherwise, with injuries, it's another year out of the playoffs.

I heard Mucil left with an "arm injury" as well, which is worrying because he had season ending wrist surgery last spring. Good lord, the injury bug is biting already and its still July!

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#27 Lummeropenet
July 04 2012, 08:41AM
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If the Oil really think they could make this work i guess. Maybe he should spend another year in Sweden. Come over next year and see if he can make the team or off to OKC for some orientation to North American hockey before he fits in. If he does stay in Sweden the Oil should hunt down another D-man as long as the cost (not trading anyone in the projected top 6-8) is reasonable. Someone who can fill in while all their young D-men develop.

Why rush now. New coach, new system and new high end prospects. We already need to wear welding goggles when looking at the Oils future.

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#28 oilersplumber
July 04 2012, 08:42AM
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Ken wrote:

I watched Klefbom at the prospect 4 on 4 game (1st period only?)

He is ready for the NHL with size, speed and a great first pass.

You don't BUY and dynasty team - you build it from within.

Count me in on that plan......!!! Hopefully most of the fan base sees that...........but judging from the average age of it...........methinks they would say........when asked........"Who was Stan Makita".........the answer.........."That drill guy ?"

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#29 Clarence Oveur
July 04 2012, 08:52AM
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NO NO NO NO NO!

Acquire a frigging defenceman and let Kelfbom continue to develop in the SEL/AHL.

How many times do the Oilers have to make the same damned mistake before they get it right?

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#30 pelhem grenville
July 04 2012, 08:58AM
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Stan Mikita says OUR plumber with the great avatar too funny ...drill guy ...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... i've said in the past that I saw Tim Horton play in the early sixties ... the responses i have got are hilarious...

this age thing ... so generational it hurts ... most fans now have no idea that this game they watch is made up of a lot of the parts that were in the game 50 years ago ...it's technology that's turned the Quicksilver Ballet into what it is today...complete with arsehole CBA... escalating salaries matching sweater numbers and rule changes and the back and forth on how the game should be policed and all the bloody morons who have zero respect for their fellow players...is there any way we can have our great game again ...

without all the itching and chafing ...

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#31 sizzler
July 04 2012, 08:59AM
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Klofbomb should be coming over to play in the AHL.....Look at PRV and Lander. SEL is good but players should spend time in the AHL here, smaller ice surface and you are playing up and coming or ex NHL players.

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#32 Rama Lama
July 04 2012, 09:07AM
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I think it would be prudent for the Oilers to use this year as a development year by playing Klefbom in the AHL.

If PRV and Lander were not able to adjust to the smaller ice surface within one year it's safe to assume it will take a defenseman a little longer.

Play him in the AHL and this will give him the confidence to play in the NHL..........playing in Sweden will only delay his North American development.

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#33 nuge2nail
July 04 2012, 09:16AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow -

Klefbom should spend another year developing(Obviously it did wonders for him last year, or we wouldnt be having this discussion)

Oilers should trade for a D with the team Suter signs with, and let Klefbom develop further and join the team when HE feels he is ready.

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#34 Stack Pad Save
July 04 2012, 09:31AM
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I feel that I am ready, can I play for the Oilers?

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#35 OIL4LIFE
July 04 2012, 09:52AM
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Give Klefbom the time he wants and he will repay the oilers for standing with him!!!

On a side note can any one explain to me why most oiler fans seem to under estimate Jordan Eberle. I dont get all the split between Hall the god, Nuge the next great one, Nail gods right hand "That has not even played yet" . And when most fans talk about Eberle is all about how all he played was the soft comp. How he is to small, and not as talented. Hes not the one hurt all the time, and it couldn't have been easy leading the oil thru such a bad season. And by the end of the year Ebs and Nuge were seeing some tougher comp. Nuge fell on his face which was to be expected. "To much to soon even for that sick talent" But Eberle still put up near a point a game.

Sorry for being off topic. I just think all the kids have sick skill. But a little tired of my boy Eberle not reaching god status to in the eyes of the fan base.

Rant done. Sorry LoweTide. I will resist the urge to thread jack in the future.

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#36 db7db7db7
July 04 2012, 09:52AM
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I say get another veteran anyway. Sutton can sit if need be.

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#37 madjam
July 04 2012, 09:54AM
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If he's ready why send him back to a limited schedule in SEL again for another stint. Did not do Paajarvi as much good as he would have got had he played in N.Amerca . Did it destroy Hall or Hopkins ? Will it destoy Yakupov -i doubt it . I just don't see a big benefit sending him back to SEL's limited schedule . If he's better than Murray then he should be NHL ready . He'll grow more here as far as i'm concerned . Let him grow with the boys of the future now than later -the timing is right after all !

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#38 Bushed
July 04 2012, 09:55AM
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LT

"I'm hoping they keep Gagner too. They've invested this much time in him, might as well see how this thing turns out."

Ummm, 5 years isn't long enough to figure this out? Holy Dithers...

Why does Gagner rate 6 or more years to "figure this out" when Omark, PRV, and others are held to a much much shorter timeframe to perform consistently, with fewer quality at-bats?

If the Oil can find some big semi-skilled wingers with decent speed and defensive awareness, and who are strong on the puck (to cover Gags' weaknesses), then fine, keep him. If not, let's move on. We all know this team has to get bigger and more physical.

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#39 WhattaMike
July 04 2012, 09:59AM
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I read so far what most are saying....to give Schultz this full year of seasoning and then bring in Klefbom next year, but going out to get another (trade) defenceman who is already signed for three to four years doesnt help.... it adds to having too many players.

I think Klefbom should come this year and the main reason to support this is Krueger. He knows of european players and their type background and skills better than most north american coaches do.

If the Oil have made such an offer its because Krueger watched the kid very intently and saw how ready he may be for the new team system.

Dont forget the team also has Fedun and Teubert with whom to rotate with Klefbom ancd or J. Schultz, if necessary this coming season as well.

The Oilers have to start clearing up the excess of players on the back end now with trading some such as Peckham, Potter, Plante, etc.

The Oilers have the next wave coming in very soon now also with Marancin, Musil, Gernat, Davidson, Bigos, Simpson, Laleggia, etc.

Yes there may be growing pains with Schultz and Klefbom playing this year but with another defenceman the team would move next year there would be more growing pains again anyways.

I dont mind cause it's within three years we should be winning the Cup (HOPE) ....or at least be ready for the final four.

I am very okay with this.

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#40 CaptainLander
July 04 2012, 10:11AM
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Honestly it could be a tough call, yes he is a rookie but if he looks better at camp then the vets then how do you not bring him over? You can always send him to OKC. What if he is ready.

I am not sure it is all that easy to get this amazing and cheap defense man that some fans think exists. Look at the Wideman contract and tell me that you can get a top 4-6 defense easily. There always seems to be this delusion that we can trade Omark and Peckam for, well anything never mind a proven NHL defenseman.

If Klefbom is the best player available to play here then I say do it. Looking at where he is in the depth chart there is room for him and Schultz to play meaningful but not always the really tough minutes. Here is how I see it.

We are sadly not winner a cup or even making the playoffs next year. I simply refuse to believe that a player like Klefbom cannot develop in the NHL.

Smid Petry Whitney J Shultz Klefbom N. Schultz Sutton Peckam

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#41 vetinari
July 04 2012, 10:21AM
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I would rather that they not rush Klefbom into the NHL, but what the heck do I know? If the top brass thinks he's ready and they are prepared to ride things out with two rookies on the blueline, so be it. If Klefbom sticks, by my count, we'll need to move 1-3 blueliners to make room, especially if we try to snag a depth veteran blueliner like Chicago's Hjarlsson or Calgary's JayBo.

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#42 Dman09
July 04 2012, 10:25AM
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oilersplumber wrote:

Count me in on that plan......!!! Hopefully most of the fan base sees that...........but judging from the average age of it...........methinks they would say........when asked........"Who was Stan Makita".........the answer.........."That drill guy ?"

Agreed but I think I would play it slow.see what happens in training camp. And I would try to convince he to give the NHL a shot for 9 games and then see where both parties stand afterwards. If he still doesn't think hes ready and wants to go back to Sweden then let him. At least at that point both parties know where they are in his development.

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#43 Dman09
July 04 2012, 10:29AM
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vetinari wrote:

I would rather that they not rush Klefbom into the NHL, but what the heck do I know? If the top brass thinks he's ready and they are prepared to ride things out with two rookies on the blueline, so be it. If Klefbom sticks, by my count, we'll need to move 1-3 blueliners to make room, especially if we try to snag a depth veteran blueliner like Chicago's Hjarlsson or Calgary's JayBo.

In all fairness to this thought that having two rookies is bad, Petry was basically a rookie and was the teams best defenseman last season. Peckham, and Barker sucked and they are more veteran. I believe that Doughty and Schultz are the same age and just won the Cup as the teams best defenseman. I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Schultz can be a realiable 2nd pairing guy and be effective.

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#44 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
July 04 2012, 10:43AM
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I agree with Oilcan up there, last year Petry made the jump, and it looks like Schultz will this year. Don't have more than two prized rookie D coming in at once, so they don't end up eating each others ice time.

Judging from dev camp videos, Klefbom looks a lot bigger out there than I remember him being last year.

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#45 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
July 04 2012, 10:44AM
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You have to give up something to get something. Klefbom could be part of the package that lands the Oilers Shea Weber. Now that Suter is locked down for life in Minnesota, it should make Webers decision easier in the next few months.

Hemsky,Paajarvi,Klefbom and the first in 2013 may be enough to catch Poiles attention. I'd gladly send these guys east for Shea Weber on a long term commitment.

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#46 DieHard
July 04 2012, 11:33AM
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I'm fine with whatever Klefbom decides. I just want him to come to camp, play some exhibition games (if no lock-out) and up to 9 NHL games before he decides.

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#47 Cody anderson
July 04 2012, 11:44AM
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It depends how NHL ready they deem him to be.

I think the smaller rink is actually an advantadge to a Dman where it is a huge disadvatadge to a finesse forward. The forwards are used to the extra space and being able to go wide on a bigger rink. On the bigger rink the speed and positioning is that much more important for a Dman. It will reall expose a Dman who is slow or out of position a lot.

I think the main thing he will need to get used to over here is the contact. I am not opposed to breaking in 2 rookies at once as long as they pair them with vets and never have them play together.

The main concern is if he is not ready you could hurt his confidence.

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#48 Cody anderson
July 04 2012, 11:50AM
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@ Quicksilver ballet

Are you crazy? you would give up one of our better forward prospects, our best D pospect, and Hemsky for one year of Weber?

He is a UFA next season.

If the scouts actually believe Klefbom is better then Murray he will be a top pairing defender if a couple fo years and could step in to most team's top 4 today. Plus he is bigger.

The only way we want Weber is if he is signed long term for a reasonable rate (not going to happen) or if we had to give up very little to get him. (Not going to happen)

If it was Hemsky and 1 D prospect other then Klefbom then you have to decide if that is worth 1 year of Weber because you know what he can demand in free agency next season.

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#49 oilersplumber
July 04 2012, 12:15PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Stan Mikita says OUR plumber with the great avatar too funny ...drill guy ...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... i've said in the past that I saw Tim Horton play in the early sixties ... the responses i have got are hilarious...

this age thing ... so generational it hurts ... most fans now have no idea that this game they watch is made up of a lot of the parts that were in the game 50 years ago ...it's technology that's turned the Quicksilver Ballet into what it is today...complete with arsehole CBA... escalating salaries matching sweater numbers and rule changes and the back and forth on how the game should be policed and all the bloody morons who have zero respect for their fellow players...is there any way we can have our great game again ...

without all the itching and chafing ...

oops.......spelled Stans name wrong.........dunno if we will ever get our game back to where it was....the zeal to sell the game to the American audience has resulted in everything from the Charlie "O" finlays Oakland Seals and their colored skates...........to the Fox "puck".......to cheerleaders in the stands ??.......Give me pal hal and the king in the bunker, orland kurtenbach, guyle fielder, doug messier......anyday.....over PJ Stock ?...tim ho......was quite the player and the responses even funnier.......reminds of my dad who was an avid leaf fan (ugh).and hated the canadiens......he used to call jacques lemaire...."the horse with the two harse hole"

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#50 oilersplumber
July 04 2012, 12:21PM
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Agreed but I think I would play it slow.see what happens in training camp. And I would try to convince he to give the NHL a shot for 9 games and then see where both parties stand afterwards. If he still doesn't think hes ready and wants to go back to Sweden then let him. At least at that point both parties know where they are in his development.

...all good.....the only thing or issue I personally have with euro players is the whole attiutude thing......I remember flying into Vanc one year which happened to be the all-star break and the game was in Vanc that coming saturday......two rather prominent players of euro descent were next to me in the baggage carousel......two young boys trotted up behind them to ask for signatures.....could not believe the response to these two kids to this day.......I know that one off does not make the player.........but as me mum told me......"small character acts build big character tracts".....

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