Penalty Calls and the Calgary Flames

RexLibris
February 25 2017 12:00PM

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I don't believe in the Wideman curse.

It isn't that I refuse to acknowledge that the Flames are being penalized more heavily this season than last, but rather it is that I don't believe it is entirely due to the incident where Dennis Wideman cross checked Don Henderson into the boards. 

Kerry Fraser wrote a piece in late January responding directly to the question of whether the Flames are being unfairly targeted by the officials because of Wideman. I've recommended it to not only Flames fans, but fans of any team. 

But back to the Wideman curse, the Flames are simultaneously receiving more penalties than any other team in the league (ahead of Colorado by 0.03 penalty kills per game) and being penalized at around a league-average rate of 18%. 

How is that possible? 

They are committing a greater number of infractions. 

This season I have tracked a number of Flames games for penalty infractions committed by both the Flames and their opponents, logging those infractions which were called and which were uncalled.

I did something similar at the end of last season and decided to repeat it again this season but over a longer period.

In all I logged data on twelve games, or roughly 15% of the entire Flames’ season, and compared that data to an equal or greater number of non-Flames games from around the NHL. (Be warned - image-heavy after the jump.)

The games included in this review are the following:

Oct 18 vs Buffalo

Oct 24 vs Chicago

Oct 28 vs Ottawa

Nov 10 vs Dallas

Nov 16 vs Arizona

Nov 21 vs Buffalo

Nov 27 vs Philadelphia

Dec 27 vs Colorado

Jan 6 vs Vancouver

Jan 14 vs Edmonton

Jan 17 vs Florida

Jan 21 vs Edmonton

Feb 21 vs Nashville

I tried to get an even split of Eastern and Western conference teams, teams both in and outside of the Pacific Division and across the spectrum of strength of opposition.

For those unfamiliar with my methodology, here’s what I do:

I record a random sampling of games and review every played minute, rewinding multiple times as the situation requires, in order to identify infractions, the severity and the two parties involved.

I use the NHL’s own rulebook when assessing whether an infraction has occurred, putting it into one of two categories, Physical or Technical, and then assigning a severity ranking of phantom, weak, fair or obvious, as well as the time of the infraction and the jersey number of the player who committed the infraction and against whom it was committed. All infractions are marked as either Called or Missed.

This provides a rolling picture of the officiating process that takes place in a game, and gives us an idea specifically of whether one team was penalized more than their opposition, relative to the number of infractions committed.

Here is my coding criteria:

Missed (M) or Called (C), depending on whether the infraction was a called penalty or not.

Physical infractions (P) include elbowing, cross-checking, slashing, high-sticking, boarding, hits to the head, charging, kneeing and such.

Technical infractions (T) include interference, tripping, hooking, holding the stick, delay of game, and so on.

Severity (0, 1, 2, 3)

• 0 is a phantom call.
• 1 is a weak call of the sort that I wouldn’t want routinely enforced because it would distract from the physicality and emotion of the game.
• 2 is a fair called, an earned penalty that fits the letter of the law and is apparent enough to warrant being enforced.
• 3 is a blatant or obvious call, an egregious infraction within sight of the officials (presumably, at least) whose not being called is an act in and of itself.

I record the kind of infraction committed; high-sticking, interference, elbowing, cross-checking, slashing, and so on.

I add the time of the event using the game clock and the jersey numbers of the players involved.

So a missed slashing infraction by Corey Perry on Sam Bennett might look something like this: M, 2P Sl, 10, 93, 15:54.

Altogether, the percentage of times a penalty is called compared to how often it isn’t I refer to as a Rate of Call (RoC).

I’ll be posting raw game data at the conclusion of the article so that anyone interested in reviewing it can do so.

There is a lot of ground to cover here, so let’s get started.

Summary Findings

The graph below demonstrates the difference in the number of penalties called to either the Flames or their opposition based on the type and severity of each penalty, graded against an equal sized data set I collected from NHL games that did not feature either the Flames or the Oilers. 

The red line indicates how often the Flames would be penalized for a particular type of infraction, the black line the Flames' opposition, and the gray line is the league average as determined by my control group. The Flames are close to league average in every category save the 3P category, egregious physical fouls. The Flames' opposition, by comparison, is penalized far more often than the Flames or the league average when committing 2P infractions, fairly earned physical fouls. 

RoC

In collecting data on rule infractions I determine the percentage of times that a team is penalized for a particular family of infractions (technical or physical ranked by severity, ie: 2P, 3T, etc). This helps to wade through the mountains of information and generalize some events enough that we can see patterns without losing the details that give them context.

In the end what I come up with is what I call a Rate of Call. Essentially it is taking the number of penalties meted out within a particular grouping, say 3P (blatant physical fouls) and then dividing that by the total number of those infractions committed, both called and uncalled. This tells you, again in general terms, how often an infraction from that range is likely to be called.

It is by no means perfect, but it does help to weed out some of the situational circumstances which can blind the observer from making an objective call on the information.

For interests' sake, I checked and Sam Bennett was the most likely Flame to commit an infraction in those games that were reviewed while Matthew Tkachuk was the most likely to be targeted by the opposition.

Below are charts that indicate the difference in infractions, called and uncalled, between the Flames and their opposition over the course of the games in question. With the two pie charts below, the important thing to look for is the relative similarity of halves between the two charts, showing that penalties that were called were more or less in line with the infractions that were committed by the Flames and their opponents. 

Totals

Here are some raw numbers to put everything above into perspective. The charts above will suggest that the Flames are running about even with their opposition in terms of penalties, but the eye-test says that the Flames generally receive more penalties than their opposition. This is because the Flames commit a higher number of infractions than their opposition. 

In other words, the Flames and their opponents both get called on 18% of the infractions they commit, but if the Flames commit 10 they'll get 2 penalties while if their opposition commits 5 they'll probably only get 1 penalty.  

Types Called and Uncalled

This table takes the numbers above and combines it with the above line chart that shows where the Flames and their opposition rate on the likelihood of being penalized for a particular family of infraction relative to what I'm observing from around the rest of the league. 

RoC Type Table Avgs

In Conclusion

It appears to me that the Flames are being more heavily penalized this season because they are committing a greater number of punishable infractions. Under Bob Hartley the Flames played what I call a positionally aggressive system wherein they would forecheck heavily in the offensive zone and press closely on the opposition players with the puck in their own defensive zone, taking away time and space.

Under Glen Gulutzan I would suggest they have retained that aggressiveness but are applying it with less discipline and distinction between being in position and simply being aggressive. Perhaps some of this is due to some players being out of position at times and resorting to committing infractions in order to regain a level of competitive advantage or to defuse an opposition possession.

The much-discussed Wideman effect, does not readily appear in the data. However, Kerry Fraser's opinion on this matter, outlined in the linked article, was that an official would not necessarily target a player by way of manufactured calls, but that that player would likely receive less situational leeway (ie: instead of a warning to stop holding an opponent the player is penalized, or that slashes are called by the book rather than separating what was intentional from merely within the flow of the game). Rarely does it extend to an entire team, in Fraser’s view, but that again, in those cases an official is more likely to call the rules by the book rather than fabricate penalties or focus solely on that team’s actions.

In the end, the Flames are an aggressive team built with that characteristic in mind. From what I have observed they are being treated as fairly by the officials as most any other within the NHL. As such, the penalties they have received this season they have largely earned by their own actions.

Game-by-Game

The following is the game-by-game data I collected along with some quick information on each such as the most "active" Flames player to commit infractions and the Flame most targeted by the opposition. 

Oct 18 vs Buffalo – 4-3 win, referees were Graham Skilliter and Brad Meier.

Bennett committed the greatest number of fouls while Gaudreau was the most frequently targeted by the opposition. Overall, a curious game as the two teams combined for 13 penalties on only 33 committed infractions. CGY was called on 29% of their infractions, Buffalo on 58% of theirs.

Buffalo Oct18

Buffalo Table Oct 18

Oct 24 vs Chicago – 3-2 win, referees were Marc Joanette and Wes McCauley.

Matt Stajan was the instigator for the Flames while Versteeg was the most oft-targeted Flame. Flames committed 34 uncalled infractions drawing 2 penalties (6%). The Hawks committed 20 and were called on another 5 (20%).

Chicago Oct 24

Chicago Oct 24 Table

Oct 28 vs Ottawa – 5-2 win, referees were Dan O’Rourke and Kevin Pollock.

Kris Versteeg led the way in a largely infraction-free match while Frolik was the most-targeted Flame by the Senators. Infractions were few, despite the penalties handed out as Flames committed 14 and were penalized 4 times (22%) while Senators committed 15 infractions and were penalized 2 times on top of that (12%).

Ottawa

Ottawa Table

Nov 10 vs Dallas – 3-2 loss, referees were Trevor Hanson, Tom Kowal.

Most active Flames player, either by committing or as victim of, infractions was Alex Chiasson. Flames committed 22 uncalled infractions, received 5 penalties (19%) while the Stars committed 19 infractions and were penalized 4 more times as well (17%).

Dallas

Dallas Table

Nov 16 vs Arizona – 2-1 win, referees were Dan O’Halloran and Ghislain Hebert.

I’m just going to say this now. There are two teams I absolutely hate tracking for infractions. Arizona is one, Anaheim the other. For reasons that will become apparent in a moment.

The Flames guilty of committing the most fouls was Frolik while the Flames on the receiving end was Backlund. Now, about that…Backlund was relatively quiet for a large stretch of the game until the final few minutes wherein the Coyotes were pushing for a goal and he was on the receiving end of five infractions (3 slashes, 2 cross-checks) between 9:49 and 6:00 remaining in the 3rd period, all but one of them being an obvious (severity 3) infraction.

That sort of play is one of the reasons for my distaste for reviewing Arizona games. They slow down the process requiring repeated rewinding and rewatching to determine the culprits, nature and severity of the infractions.

Be that as it may, the Flames committed 27 uncalled infractions and were penalized on 4 more (13%) while the Coyotes committed 34 uncalled infractions yet also received 4 penalties (11%).  

Arizona

Arizona Table

Nov 21 vs Buffalo – 4-2 loss, referees were Trevor Hanson and Tim Peel.

This is the first logged game where Tkachuk appears as the Flame with the most number of committed infractions, called or uncalled. Mark Giordano was the most-targeted Flame in this game.

The Flames committed 32 uncalled infractions, the vast majority of them physical fouls (21 in total) and were penalized 7 times as a result (18%). The Sabres committed 24 uncalled infractions and were penalized 3 times (11%).

The majority of those penalties occurred in the 2nd period (9 of 10) with five straight called between 11:18 and 7:07 (1 against the Sabres, the remaining 4 against the Flames). All were earned or obvious calls (roughing, slashing, slashing, tripping, interference).

Buffalo 2

Buffalo 2 Table

Nov 27 vs Philadelphia – 5-3 loss, referees were Dan O’Rourke and Kendrick Nicholson.

This was the period when Tkachuk had begun to be noticed around the league, and not necessarily in a complimentary fashion. He was the Flames player with the highest number of infractions while Frolik was the most oft-targeted. Tkachuk committed 7 infractions and received 5 penalties from them, although four of these came during the scrum with Konecny in the final 5 minutes of the game.

Altogether the Flames committed 23 uncalled infractions and received 9 penalties as a result (28%) though, as I mentioned, many of those came as a result of one altercation at the end of the game. Without those, the Flames were penalized at a rate of 19%. The Flyers committed 22 uncalled infractions and received 3 penalties (12%).

Philadelphia

Philadelphia Table

Dec 27 vs Colorado – 6-3 win, referees were Kyle Rehman and Chris Schlenker.

Dougie Hamilton was the Flame guilty of committing the most infractions while Mark Giordano was the one most frequently targeted by the opposition.

The Flames committed 30 uncalled infractions, receiving 6 penalties (17%) while the Avalanche committed 17 uncalled infractions and received 4 penalties (19%).

Colorado

Colorado Table

Jan 6 vs Vancouver – 4-2 loss, referees were Justin St. Pierre and Ian Walsh.

Alex Chiasson was the leading Flames’ culprit in this game with Johnny Gaudreau making his first appearance in this review as the most oft-targeted Flames’ player.

Calgary committed 22 uncalled infractions and were penalized 3 times (12%) while the Canucks committed 18 uncalled infractions and drew 4 penalties against (18%).

Vancouver

Vancouver Table

Jan 14 vs Edmonton – 2-1 loss, referees were Gord Dwyer and Ghislain Hebert.

Dougie Hamilton again appears as the leading Flame when it came to committing infractions while, unbelievably, Deryk Engelland appears as the most targeted Flame.

The Flames committed 29 uncalled infractions and were penalized 4 times (12%) while the Oilers committed 21 uncalled infractions and were penalized twice (9%).

Edmonton 1

Edmonton Table 1

Jan 17 vs Florida – 5-2 win, referees were Francis Charron and Trevor Hanson.

Sam Bennett led the team with the most committed infractions while Matthew Tkachuk was the most targeted Flame.

The Flames committed 29 uncalled infractions and were penalized 4times (12%) while the Panthers committed 23 infractions and were penalized 4 times on top of that (15%).

Florida

Florida Table

Jan 21 vs Edmonton – 7-3 loss, referees were Chris Lee and Dave Lewis.

Matthew Tkachuk makes another appearance as the Flames’ player most involved in committing infractions while Johnny Gaudreau returns as the most targeted Flame.

This game got out of hand on the scoreboard and as the goal differential escalated, infractions began to be more strictly enforced. Case in point, the final minute of the 2nd period saw 4 penalties assessed for hooking (Frolik), cross-checking (McDavid), roughing (Tkachuk) and a misconduct (Tkachuk). 5 more penalties were assessed in the final period.

Overall, the Flames committed 22 uncalled infractions and received 8 penalties (27%) while the Oilers committed 17 uncalled infractions (for both teams, the majority of these were physical infractions) and penalized 6 times (26%).

Edmonton 2

Edmonton Table 2

Feb 21 vs Nashville – 6-5 win, referees were Dan O’Halloran and Francois StLaurent.

In the first six minutes of play the Flames committed seven un-answered infractions, one of which was penalized. The first period saw the Flames dominate on the score board that, in some instances, is mirrored in the number of their infractions.

The Flame guilt of committing the most infractions was Mark Giordano while Matthew Tkachuk was the player who received the greatest number of committed fouls by the Predators.

Calgary committed 20 uncalled infractions and were penalized 5 times (20%) while Nashville committed 17 uncalled infractions and were penalized 4 times (19%). Despite the Flames playing a far more aggressive style at times in the game, the Predators  responded later in the game, eventually recording 7 egregious uncalled physical fouls compared to only 2 by the Flames throughout the game. Conversely, the Flames committed a very high number, 9, of egregious technical fouls compared to a relatively small number, 2, by the Predators.

Nashville

Nashville Table


Below are the game-by-game raw datum points as mentioned earlier, for anyone who wishes to follow the work. 

Buffalo 1

Chicago

Ottawa

Dallas

Arizona

Buffalo 2

Philadelphia

Colorado

Vancouver

Edmonton 1

Florida

Edmonton 2

Nashville

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#1 Burnward
February 25 2017, 12:08PM
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#2 freethe flames
February 25 2017, 12:13PM
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The bigger question is how to avoid dumb/selfish/lazy penalties and how to draw more penalties. Then how to get the 1st PP unit back on track. Maybe start with Backlund unit?

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#3 FerdaFlames
February 25 2017, 12:37PM
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Conclusion.... I still believe in Wideman curse.

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#4 OKG
February 25 2017, 01:03PM
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Entire post was written by an Oilers fan, why would I bother reading?

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#8 deantheraven
February 25 2017, 01:17PM
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You work on this is impressive, and exhaustive Rex. It's really admirable to see someone dedicate their effort and skill to a worthwhile thing. And it is subjectively assembled data. Maybe if you viewed these games with a panel of reviewers that each scored the game on the same criteria, you might get something resembling a consensus as to what exactly is a 'borderline' call, missed call, etc..No offense but you're one guy with one pair of eyes. I don't have to mention you're an Oilers fan, but there, I just did. Not that I'm questioning your objectivity. My theory is that it's not a league- wide conspiracy (perhaps was but not any longer), rather it's a few refs that hang onto their own bias. But it's still real. Referees are unfortunately human, and therefore can have a very difficult time being completely objective. Some of the Flames are chippy, some are chirpy. It would be reasonable to assume that not all referees come into each game with a completely empty file on the team. You gotta think refs talk just like players do. Close opposition penalty numbers can sometimes fall into the 'even up' category, which is another outcome of humans making decisions with some sense of 'fairness' at play. It would be interesting to see more data (read: all games) and correlate the data from the lopsided games where 'phantom' calls and 'borderline' calls put the Flames at a disadvantage more of the time check to see if there was a relationship between the Flames and specific referees. That to me is the most obvious place to look.

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#10 jeremywilhelm
February 25 2017, 02:23PM
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Holy crap. Great work Rex.

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#11 smith
February 25 2017, 02:43PM
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Show either of those charts Burnward posted too a non-hockey statistician and see what they say.

There is no way that such a huge change happens to the number of penalty calls just "coincidentally" at the exact same time as Wideman is hit by a ref.

You are living in La la land.

My problem with this is not actually the issue of the flames losing games thanks to refs. My issue is that this proves quite conclusively that the NHL is biased. There is no way they were not aware that the Flames were receiving more penalties. It was spoken about way to often by media, fans etc... The NHL did nothing about this situation. On the chart posted you can see quite clearly the "trend" is returning to normal. Does this coincide with Burke speaking to league? If so would just reinforce that the bias existed.

What other bias exist? I never believed in conspiracy theory crap around the NHL wanting big market teams in playoffs, finals etc...... But now..... Having shown they will condone this crap I am starting to wonder. Do they encourage refs to call games against teams they do not want to succeed?

So much for the integrity of the game.

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#12 jupiter
February 25 2017, 02:59PM
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Well Rex, I see you are totally invested in the belief that data is the truth.

I'd believe all this if the officials weren't human. Hockey is a form of Entertainment. Like many forms of entertainment it's loaded with emotion.

I don't see how anyone could support the theory that The NHL Officials Association has developed a standard that is applied accurately. I'll use the example of how calls change come playoffs, and change even further as the stakes get higher.

In the future the game will probably be officiated by artificial intelligence, but right now its officiated by flawed officials.

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#13 Bean-counting cowboy
February 25 2017, 03:02PM
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Real nice article Rex and that must have been a ton of work, but I can't help but think there might be something to this even if it is not as pronounced as the average Flame fan thinks.

Burwnards' graph is quite telling. The penalty differential started to reverse immediately after the Wideman incident while Hartley was with the team (not just because of GG's new system).

Interestingly... Hartley's response to the refs was always one of contempt and full blown anger from the bench. Given Kerry Fraser's article it's hard not to imagine the reversal in penalty differential last season wasn't in part due to the 'Wideman effect' - especially with Hartley on the bench.

When GG started the year it almost seemed like he was doing everything possible not to get mad at the refs... his calm approach to me seemed like him trying to get the team back in the good books. Eventually he'd had enough and you could see him start to break down on the bench and yell at the refs and I recall one post-game presser where he said 'our team doesn't usually get any breaks' or something to that effect. I would venture to guess this was about the time the league was speaking to the Flames org as reported by Friedman.

To me it was as though GG had given up on his attempt to become the nice guy with the officials. GG was probably in on the meetings and fully aware of the response from the league that 'nothing was going on' and I suspect this is when he lost the calmer approach.

I can appreciate the amount of conjecture in my opinion here... but it's how I see this season has gone (having watched most every game) and the timing seems to fit.

Ultimately, I hope the best for Don Henderson and the Flames Org. He didn't deserve what he got but neither do the Flames (should there be some legitmate bias going on)

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#14 Burning Ring of Fire
February 25 2017, 03:03PM
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The refs put their whistles away during the playoffs.

Carry on boys....

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#15 ThisBigMouthIsRight
February 25 2017, 03:29PM
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I find it rather odd that a Hockey panel on one of those national TV sports shows were discussing the "wideman effect"(this past week) and one panelist suggested when talking to other GMs, players and coaches... That they all agree there is a bias against the Flames when it comes to the reffs and most teams do exploit it.. But Hey, by all means lets just believe the data (that can be manipulated to be what ever the results want to reflect)IMO... I guess everyone is entitled to an Opinion including me.. Cheers!

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#16 C Watson
February 25 2017, 04:35PM
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Without doubt the most boring article I never read.

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#17 Slowmo
February 25 2017, 05:24PM
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Wow how can you be so blind to such an obvious situation even on sportsnet they agree it is Bios from refs but being an oilers fan and we all know the Oilers paid the NHL tons of money to get Conner and conveniently enough the first over all pick changes after they get there man Ohh what a shock. Bios No not here go back and write for your team stay off of here.

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#18 deantheraven
February 25 2017, 05:48PM
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@RexLibris

Thanks, Rex! See you in the first round.

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#19 Parallex
February 25 2017, 06:22PM
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Yeah... no. The Flames are almost entirely the same skaters as the team that took the fewest in the league. Sorry, I think your intentions are honest buy I can't help but think that you worked towards proving a preconceived outcome.

Sorry, I don't buy it. For what you're saying to be true a team composed of largely the same personal would have to do a 180 on infraction commitments at precisely the same moment that the refs gained an incentive to tilt the calls against them purely by coinsidence. Nope. Don't buy it.

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#20 beloch
February 25 2017, 06:52PM
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While I applaud your effort Rex, I confess I'm not convinced. You went into the exercise with a personal bias and confirmed it by tabulating judgement calls that are susceptible to personal bias. Also, you have no frame of reference for comparison. You'd need to have done the same thing for other teams to be able to say what is normal and what is not normal in the NHL.

Also, it's worth pointing out that refs, if they really wanted to deliberately screw over the Flames, would probably not stack up hundreds of spurious penalties over the course of the season. Rather, they'd just add a few key calls against the Flames and no-calls on their opponents at key moments in the game. So, you'd really need to look at the timing and impact of calls.

On the other hand, I'm not convinced Wideman effect is real. I don't think anyone speaking publicly has really put in the work to prove something fishy is up. A few bad calls at the right time is all it takes for the media to pick up on a story like this, so their interest proves nothing. Presumably they would feel some responsibility to avoid maligning the refs without good cause, but selling copy is often King with these guys.

The fact that the Flames have spoken to the league about "Wideman effect" is more suggestive, but we don't have access to their stats. I would assume they didn't just go into that meeting with empty hands and an unbacked opinion.

Also suggestive is the huge increase in PIM over last year despite relatively little roster turnover. Blaming it all on Gulutzan's new systems is not wholly without merit, but also a little hand-wavy. You might back it up a little better by noticing the fact that Vancouver's PIM went way down this season with Gulutzan gone, but how much impact does an assistant coach really have on team PIM?

Bottom line, I don't really know what is going on. Something smell's fishy and I am suspicious, but I have no proof. What you have done here, while a tremendous effort, does nothing to dispel those doubts. The fact that so many fans now have legitimate doubts about the impartiality of the NHL's officiating is a big problem for the league. Whether "Wideman effect" is real or not, I think the league needs to do something to address public perception of it.

Edit: I just stumbled upon this excellent post and it tips the scales for me on Wideman effect being real last season. It does not address the current season though. (Edit 2: Yes it does address this season. Serves me right for mentioning this after looking at if for 30 seconds before rushing out the door.)

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#21 Derzie
February 25 2017, 07:12PM
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I'll save you some excel perusing: The moment Wideman destroyed the ref, the scales tilted heavily against the Flames. These are facts. The numbers can be selected to to tell any story but anyone watching the Flames every game before and after knows that the refs are punishing the Flames. That said, the refs are poor quality in general and as an organization have a thin skin. No one can get better at their job if they can't take criticism. No one.

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Slowmo wrote:

Wow how can you be so blind to such an obvious situation even on sportsnet they agree it is Bios from refs but being an oilers fan and we all know the Oilers paid the NHL tons of money to get Conner and conveniently enough the first over all pick changes after they get there man Ohh what a shock. Bios No not here go back and write for your team stay off of here.

uh sportsnet has a huge bias to the team they cover.

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#23 country mac
February 25 2017, 07:37PM
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Yeah... no. The Flames are almost entirely the same skaters as the team that took the fewest in the league. Sorry, I think your intentions are honest buy I can't help but think that you worked towards proving a preconceived outcome.

Sorry, I don't buy it. For what you're saying to be true a team composed of largely the same personal would have to do a 180 on infraction commitments at precisely the same moment that the refs gained an incentive to tilt the calls against them purely by coinsidence. Nope. Don't buy it.

uh Tkachuk has 94 penalty minutes, that is almost an additional penalty per game, bringing back ALMOST the same team as last year is not a valid argument with Tkachuk being the addition

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#24 dontcryWOLF88
February 25 2017, 08:42PM
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The real test will be whether or not the flames number of calls goes back down now that Wideman is more, or less, off the team.

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#25 Avalain
February 25 2017, 09:05PM
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@beloch

Belochs point about the Wideman effect being present last season seems valid to me. I think that we've seen things even out a bit in the last while. Refs are human, yes, and I really couldn't see them pursuing some sort of vendetta a year later. Our problems this year stem from Tkachuk being new and Bennett being frustrated.

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#26 Guest
February 25 2017, 11:38PM
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beloch wrote:

While I applaud your effort Rex, I confess I'm not convinced. You went into the exercise with a personal bias and confirmed it by tabulating judgement calls that are susceptible to personal bias. Also, you have no frame of reference for comparison. You'd need to have done the same thing for other teams to be able to say what is normal and what is not normal in the NHL.

Also, it's worth pointing out that refs, if they really wanted to deliberately screw over the Flames, would probably not stack up hundreds of spurious penalties over the course of the season. Rather, they'd just add a few key calls against the Flames and no-calls on their opponents at key moments in the game. So, you'd really need to look at the timing and impact of calls.

On the other hand, I'm not convinced Wideman effect is real. I don't think anyone speaking publicly has really put in the work to prove something fishy is up. A few bad calls at the right time is all it takes for the media to pick up on a story like this, so their interest proves nothing. Presumably they would feel some responsibility to avoid maligning the refs without good cause, but selling copy is often King with these guys.

The fact that the Flames have spoken to the league about "Wideman effect" is more suggestive, but we don't have access to their stats. I would assume they didn't just go into that meeting with empty hands and an unbacked opinion.

Also suggestive is the huge increase in PIM over last year despite relatively little roster turnover. Blaming it all on Gulutzan's new systems is not wholly without merit, but also a little hand-wavy. You might back it up a little better by noticing the fact that Vancouver's PIM went way down this season with Gulutzan gone, but how much impact does an assistant coach really have on team PIM?

Bottom line, I don't really know what is going on. Something smell's fishy and I am suspicious, but I have no proof. What you have done here, while a tremendous effort, does nothing to dispel those doubts. The fact that so many fans now have legitimate doubts about the impartiality of the NHL's officiating is a big problem for the league. Whether "Wideman effect" is real or not, I think the league needs to do something to address public perception of it.

Edit: I just stumbled upon this excellent post and it tips the scales for me on Wideman effect being real last season. It does not address the current season though. (Edit 2: Yes it does address this season. Serves me right for mentioning this after looking at if for 30 seconds before rushing out the door.)

This Link is well done and does indeed address 2017. Ignoring the compelling statistical argument (the penalty differential change is off the charts), I will note this paragraph:

"As additional evidence, we note that in that prior to the Wideman hit, roughly 1 in 10 Calgary games included no taken penalties. In the 92 games after the Wideman hit, the Flames only had one such game. Moreover, the jump in Calgary’s penalties corresponded with a drop in the league-wide infraction rate."

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#27 Guest
February 25 2017, 11:40PM
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This too:

"At more than one penalty a game across more than a full season of play, it’s easy, albeit unsafe, to extrapolate and estimate that Calgary’s jump in penalties was worth about 20 goals against. This is an incredible total. Even if only part of Calgary’s increase in penalties was due to a revenge factor, the biggest impact of Wideman’s hit on the Flames wasn’t felt in his suspension, but in the penalty box."

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#28 EST. 1980
February 26 2017, 06:45AM
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You did a lot of research, thanks Rex!! However, I do not agree with your conclusion. When fans, team brass and even the media are making it an issue, then it is noticeable. Where there is smoke there is fire... Your stats, while good and well researched are just that... Your stats. What you precieve as a penalty technical or physical, called or not called and the severity, is your bias opinion (it's ok, we all have them). As stated in the opening paragraph, you don't believe in the "Wideman Effect" and have attempted to educate the Flamesnation followers of your mindset through your own information and opinions. I'm sure you could look at 12 different games throughout the season and find the exact opposite results of your conclusion, especially if it was an "un-bias" flames fan doing the research.

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#29 ChinookArchYYC
February 26 2017, 07:29AM
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Thanks for putting this together Rex. Good stuff.

A lot of NHL fans, myself included have complained the games are called unevenly. There are many instances where referees appear to make "even up calls" in an effort to negate a bad or missed call. Worse yet the idea that penalities are called to balance the number of calls made between opposing teams. Thankfully, your results don't support this idea, since the rates are generally close.

The observation for me is that statistically it pays to cheat. It appears that the rate of calls made drops as the number of infraction increases. If this is true, it's disapponting even if the Flames are large benefactors this year. While these teams a still forced to play short handed more, they get away with being cheap and slowing the games down. I'm really curious to see the infraction rate for the Ducks, Kings and Coyotes. Three teams that use infractions as part of their defensive schemes.

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ChinookArchYYC wrote:

Thanks for putting this together Rex. Good stuff.

A lot of NHL fans, myself included have complained the games are called unevenly. There are many instances where referees appear to make "even up calls" in an effort to negate a bad or missed call. Worse yet the idea that penalities are called to balance the number of calls made between opposing teams. Thankfully, your results don't support this idea, since the rates are generally close.

The observation for me is that statistically it pays to cheat. It appears that the rate of calls made drops as the number of infraction increases. If this is true, it's disapponting even if the Flames are large benefactors this year. While these teams a still forced to play short handed more, they get away with being cheap and slowing the games down. I'm really curious to see the infraction rate for the Ducks, Kings and Coyotes. Three teams that use infractions as part of their defensive schemes.

Bingo Which is pretty sad because it speaks to the integrity and professionalism of the people running the league.

The league has a problem here, and it's growing.

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#31 Kevin R
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country mac wrote:

uh Tkachuk has 94 penalty minutes, that is almost an additional penalty per game, bringing back ALMOST the same team as last year is not a valid argument with Tkachuk being the addition

Uhh I would say Bollig in the AHL all year kind of counteracts the grit Tkachuk has brought with his game. Tkachuk is also a distant runner in the Calder where Bollig had his role pretty well defined.

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#32 Slowmo
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country mac wrote:

uh sportsnet has a huge bias to the team they cover.

Sorry CM I live on the Island I am stuck with Pacific sportsnet and trust me they is no Bias for calgary. As a matter a fact there is no news when they do games from earlier that night or next day. When Van toronto and Oilers are being talked about they will do a 60-190 sec conversation when it to Cgy you are lucky to get 30 sec will show the goals thats about it. So no no Bias here. By the way it was on Sports net panel

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